Comments on: Schools – values (2)

By: Norman

Norman — Sat, 20 Nov 2004 06:09:08 +0000

The more we talk about “tolerance”, the less we see tolerant behaviour, and the same is true of many other fetishes in our ediucation systems. . But the poor bloody classroom teachers spend enormous amounts of time on the relevant irrelevant paperwork.

By: n.cartes

n.cartes — Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:28:29 +0000

I have always thought about the new types of values that secondary students should develop: commitment with success, education and as a person. Besides, we cannot alk about responsibility, per se, because it is used in different circumstances in life. Anyway, the acceptance of different ethnic, religious and monetary groups must be considered nowadays. These two types of values include others, such as responsibility, tolerance, respect for others, etc.,etc-

By: S Whiplash

S Whiplash — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

Robert,

I’m off to bed in a minute and don’t have time to respond in detail. I’ll post a response as soon as I can, but that may not be until this weekend.

By: Yobbo

Yobbo — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

At least someone there has a sense of humour. :)

By: S Whiplash

S Whiplash — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

Robert,

In my previous post I relied primarily on the executive summary of the VES but have now gone through the whole report. The report is general in nature – it’s virtually anecdotal – and is neither a valid nor reliable look at the values currently taught in schools.

Regradless, I continue to believe that, in not applying significant sanctions for student misbehaviour and failure to attempt the work provided to them, public schools are teaching students that inappropriate behaviour is in fact appropriate and that success (passing from grade to grade) can be achieved without work. On the other hand, private schools can enforce standards of behaviour and do expect students to work.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

You and I don’t disagree very much after all!

By: Norman

Norman — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

And this is why State School teachers increasingly want to keep their own children out of the schools in which they work. It’s not primarily the individual teacher who is the problem. It’s the decades of stupid “experiments” by well meaning, but intellectually blinkered, “do-gooders”.