Comments on: Short thoughts http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/ "The thinking Laborite would as lief be found in bed with a cobra as in a committee room armed with 'arguments' from the Tory press." --- Truth, Perth, 19 June 1915. Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:29:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: S Whiplash http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2901 S Whiplash Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2901 So, what, UN people don't make local calls? The tapping of phone lines and the planting of microphones in U.N. offices are common enough that the organization employs a team of debuggers, headed by a former New York police officer, to routinely sweep offices and respond to requests from nations that suspect their officials are being monitored. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10951-2004Feb26.html So, what, UN people don’t make local calls?

The tapping of phone lines and the planting of microphones in U.N. offices are common enough that the organization employs a team of debuggers, headed by a former New York police officer, to routinely sweep offices and respond to requests from nations that suspect their officials are being monitored.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10951-2004Feb26.html

]]> By: S Whiplash http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2902 S Whiplash Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2902 Why did Clare Short wait until after the war to out the warmongers' dirty tricks? Because she only just now made it up. Why did Clare Short wait until after the war to out the warmongers’ dirty tricks?

Because she only just now made it up.

]]> By: Niall http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2903 Niall Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2903 More likely because in the leaddup to war, she was in the inner cabinet and maintained some semblance of cabinet solidarity. I dare say these days her conscience pricks her endlessly. More likely because in the leaddup to war, she was in the inner cabinet and maintained some semblance of cabinet solidarity. I dare say these days her conscience pricks her endlessly.

]]> By: simon http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2904 simon Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2904 nice time to find your scrupples,well and truely after the hourse has bolted.but really such technology wasn't really invented to not be misused,are you really that supprised? nice time to find your scrupples,well and truely after the hourse has bolted.but really such technology wasn’t really invented to not be misused,are you really that supprised?

]]> By: Geoff Honnor http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2905 Geoff Honnor Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2905 "More likely because in the leaddup to war, she was in the inner cabinet and maintained some semblance of cabinet solidarity. I dare say these days her conscience pricks her endlessly." No. More likely it's her sense that Tony Blair is a prick for deservedly manoeuvring her out of Cabinet that rankles. I'm guessing that it's got nothing much to do with "conscience" and everything to do with revenge. She voted for the War. She stayed in Cabinet when Robin Cook left the government. She cut and ran whenshe assessed it as politically expedient to do so and if she's so deeply tortured by the notion that (GASP!) Britain has an electronic surveillance intelligence capacity, why did she spend years in Cabinet being an instrumental part of the collective responsibility required to enable it?. Oh, chuck in the fact that it now emerges that she might not have even seen these transcripts. Though she certainly heard about them..... She's either profoundly stupid - or she thinks we are. “More likely because in the leaddup to war, she was in the inner cabinet and maintained some semblance of cabinet solidarity. I dare say these days her conscience pricks her endlessly.”

No. More likely it’s her sense that Tony Blair is a prick for deservedly manoeuvring her out of Cabinet that rankles. I’m guessing that it’s got nothing much to do with “conscience” and everything to do with revenge.

She voted for the War. She stayed in Cabinet when Robin Cook left the government. She cut and ran whenshe assessed it as politically expedient to do so and if she’s so deeply tortured by the notion that (GASP!) Britain has an electronic surveillance intelligence capacity, why did she spend years in Cabinet being an instrumental part of the collective responsibility required to enable it?.

Oh, chuck in the fact that it now emerges that she might not have even seen these transcripts. Though she certainly heard about them…..

She’s either profoundly stupid – or she thinks we are.

]]> By: Norman http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-2906 Norman Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2004/02/27/short-thoughts/#comment-2906 Geoff, could you be partly right on the first explanation, and Short partly right on the second? Geoff, could you be partly right on the first explanation, and Short partly right on the second?

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