Comments on: Political victim or common thief? http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/ "The thinking Laborite would as lief be found in bed with a cobra as in a committee room armed with 'arguments' from the Tory press." --- Truth, Perth, 19 June 1915. Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:29:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: C.L. http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8232 C.L. Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:49:04 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8232 It's worth me pondering I guess. It’s worth me pondering I guess.

]]> By: Robert http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8230 Robert Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:06:56 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8230 It's only because of an active campaign against them (first at Newcastle University, now in Sydney) that they struggle to get numbers. If they were allowed to spread their disgusting propaganda unchallenged, they would be more successful. It’s only because of an active campaign against them (first at Newcastle University, now in Sydney) that they struggle to get numbers. If they were allowed to spread their disgusting propaganda unchallenged, they would be more successful.

]]> By: C.L. http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8229 C.L. Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:45:16 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8229 I'd liken the this issue to that which is frequently discussed in relation to mainstream churches: should rebelling in a public manner against the values of those institutions potentially lead to an employee's sacking? The mainstream Churches say yes. So does the state: they are given various dispensations from discrimination law accordingly. So this idiot acted in a way contrary to the ethical values of the Salvos and got sacked. Too bad. Moreover, his beliefs - when stated in public fora - may themselves have bordered on the unlawful, depending on their content. (I don't know enough to know for sure). I'm still worried these PYL neanderthals are being given too much publicity by the left-o-blogosphere Rob. Tell me I'm wrong. If they can only get less than a dozen of the Master Race together at any one time, why not ignore them? I’d liken the this issue to that which is frequently discussed in relation to mainstream churches: should rebelling in a public manner against the values of those institutions potentially lead to an employee’s sacking? The mainstream Churches say yes. So does the state: they are given various dispensations from discrimination law accordingly.

So this idiot acted in a way contrary to the ethical values of the Salvos and got sacked. Too bad. Moreover, his beliefs – when stated in public fora – may themselves have bordered on the unlawful, depending on their content. (I don’t know enough to know for sure).

I’m still worried these PYL neanderthals are being given too much publicity by the left-o-blogosphere Rob. Tell me I’m wrong. If they can only get less than a dozen of the Master Race together at any one time, why not ignore them?

]]> By: Dr. Cam http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8224 Dr. Cam Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:08:04 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8224 Well, Buddy, their is a disclaimer on EVERY page of the spoof site, saying that it is a spoof site and not affiliated with the real youth leage or any other facist organization. Snap. Well, Buddy, their is a disclaimer on EVERY page of the spoof site, saying that it is a spoof site and not affiliated with the real youth leage or any other facist organization.

Snap.

]]> By: ExistAngst http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8223 ExistAngst Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:41:00 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8223 What are you talking about? I don't even know who the Patriotic Youth Leauge are. How could i possibly be expected to tell the difference between a spoof website and a real website when I have neither heard of this organisation before nor seen their real website. I went to the website that Rob linked to in the first line of his post. Fill me in with some details and THEN you can patronise me with terms like "buddy". What are you talking about? I don’t even know who the Patriotic Youth Leauge are. How could i possibly be expected to tell the difference between a spoof website and a real website when I have neither heard of this organisation before nor seen their real website. I went to the website that Rob linked to in the first line of his post.

Fill me in with some details and THEN you can patronise me with terms like “buddy”.

]]> By: Natasha http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8222 Natasha Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:15:15 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8222 Uh, sounds like you've stumbled across the spoof website and thought it was the real thing, buddy. Uh, sounds like you’ve stumbled across the spoof website and thought it was the real thing, buddy.

]]> By: ExistAngst http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8221 ExistAngst Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:05:06 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8221 I confess to being more then a little bit confused. Is it possible that the "Patriotik Yoof League" take themselves alot less seriously then you guys? Their website is clearly, atleast to some extent or another, intended to be humerous. They have photoshopped images of their rallies, something called "Austria Thirst", a Newcastleemburg Rally and they donated money to the Tsunami appeal. I laughed hard. Am I laughing at the banality of evil, as Hannah Arendt might have said, or am I laughing at a couple of undergraduate students just taking the piss? Am I missing part of the story? I confess to being more then a little bit confused.

Is it possible that the “Patriotik Yoof League” take themselves alot less seriously then you guys?

Their website is clearly, atleast to some extent or another, intended to be humerous. They have photoshopped images of their rallies, something called “Austria Thirst”, a Newcastleemburg Rally and they donated money to the Tsunami appeal.

I laughed hard. Am I laughing at the banality of evil, as Hannah Arendt might have said, or am I laughing at a couple of undergraduate students just taking the piss? Am I missing part of the story?

]]> By: Nic White http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8213 Nic White Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:00:35 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8213 OT: Rob, Im in the middle of my reformat but I just watched the debate and plan to annotate the transcript. Could you let me know when it becomes avaliable? Cheers. OT:

Rob, Im in the middle of my reformat but I just watched the debate and plan to annotate the transcript. Could you let me know when it becomes avaliable? Cheers.

]]> By: Natasha http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/comment-page-1/#comment-8210 Natasha Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:31:12 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/02/stuart-mcbeth/#comment-8210 They sacked him because he was white. Riiight. Those Christian charities sure hate the anglos, don't they? Try 'they sacked me because I'm a Nazi', Stu. They sacked him because he was white. Riiight. Those Christian charities sure hate the anglos, don’t they?

Try ‘they sacked me because I’m a Nazi’, Stu.

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