Comments on: Suicide is painless http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/ "The thinking Laborite would as lief be found in bed with a cobra as in a committee room armed with 'arguments' from the Tory press." --- Truth, Perth, 19 June 1915. Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:29:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Stuart Fenech http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8471 Stuart Fenech Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:25:17 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8471 Mark Seymour is not a member of the ALP (to my knowledge). The members of Hunters and Collectors do tend to be Labor supporters, though I know one did vote Greens in 2001. For my Hunters and Collectors site (www.humanfrailty.com) I talked to him about this topic before the 2004 election: --- Stu: At the last election [2001] you were in the press promoting Labor... Is anything likely to happen this time? Mark: Well, I don't actively pursue those sort of relationships but if they approach me to be a spokesperson for the Labor Party, I will definitely be there, no question about it. Stu: I have to admit I'm biased because I can not stand John Howard and many aspects of policies... Mark: Well there's only one party that's going to beat them and it's the Labor Party. Stu: ... and I joined the Labor Party. Mark: Did you? Aaah yeh, good on ya. --- The general Hunters and Collectors support for Labor was shown by the playing of Do You See What I See? at the federal campaign launch when Mark was leaving. The song was used with permission. By the way, "Better Times" is a Black Sorrows song. The guy who wrote it, Joe Camaleri, did not comment on the use of the song by the Tasmanian Liberals. Mark and co were extremely pleased with having dented the Tasmanian Liberals campaign - their agitation with the use of "Holy Grail" made the front page of the Mercury :) Mark Seymour is not a member of the ALP (to my knowledge). The members of Hunters and Collectors do tend to be Labor supporters, though I know one did vote Greens in 2001. For my Hunters and Collectors site (www.humanfrailty.com) I talked to him about this topic before the 2004 election:

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Stu: At the last election [2001] you were in the press promoting Labor… Is anything likely to happen this time?

Mark: Well, I don’t actively pursue those sort of relationships but if they approach me to be a spokesperson for the Labor Party, I will definitely be there, no question about it.

Stu: I have to admit I’m biased because I can not stand John Howard and many aspects of policies…

Mark: Well there’s only one party that’s going to beat them and it’s the Labor Party.

Stu: … and I joined the Labor Party.

Mark: Did you? Aaah yeh, good on ya.
—

The general Hunters and Collectors support for Labor was shown by the playing of Do You See What I See? at the federal campaign launch when Mark was leaving. The song was used with permission.

By the way, “Better Times” is a Black Sorrows song. The guy who wrote it, Joe Camaleri, did not comment on the use of the song by the Tasmanian Liberals. Mark and co were extremely pleased with having dented the Tasmanian Liberals campaign – their agitation with the use of “Holy Grail” made the front page of the Mercury :)

]]> By: Natasha http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8454 Natasha Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:40:29 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8454 Freekin Genius. Freekin Genius.

]]> By: Robert http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8449 Robert Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:17:16 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8449 To clear up the confusion, here is a <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/11/1026185085492.html">news report</a> from the time of the dispute. To clear up the confusion, here is a news report from the time of the dispute.

]]> By: Lincoln http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8448 Lincoln Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:05:10 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8448 Liam has it wrong about the Libs in Tas being sued. The venue that was hired had paid the APRA fee so the Libs were told that no permission to use the song was needed. Mark Seymour, like everyone, is entitled to his political views and was given a great opportunity to air them. Maybe a little less conversation and a lot more information is what needed.... Liam has it wrong about the Libs in Tas being sued. The venue that was hired had paid the APRA fee so the Libs were told that no permission to use the song was needed.

Mark Seymour, like everyone, is entitled to his political views and was given a great opportunity to air them.

Maybe a little less conversation and a lot more information is what needed….

]]> By: Adam 1.0 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8446 Adam 1.0 Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:52:38 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8446 The Boom Crash Opera song in question was actually "Dancing In The Storm". I had the 'pleasure' of being present for it's illicit playing. The Boom Crash Opera song in question was actually “Dancing In The Storm”. I had the ‘pleasure’ of being present for it’s illicit playing.

]]> By: Stephen Hill http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8442 Stephen Hill Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:38:13 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8442 I thought that Kamahl-Alan Jones feud was still running, can't remember what started it. So maybe even Kamahl might be a little harder to negotiation those song rights, people can be so cruel. They can always get Peter Costello to do "Money, money, money". I thought that Kamahl-Alan Jones feud was still running, can’t remember what started it. So maybe even Kamahl might be a little harder to negotiation those song rights, people can be so cruel.

They can always get Peter Costello to do “Money, money, money”.

]]> By: Naomi http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8441 Naomi Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:55:03 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8441 The MASH fan in me is currently rolling around on the floor dying of laughter. Especially considering that Barnett's a LIBERAL... which supports a WAR... which is using music from MASH... which I seem to remember being rather ANTI-war... The MASH fan in me is currently rolling around on the floor dying of laughter. Especially considering that Barnett’s a LIBERAL… which supports a WAR… which is using music from MASH… which I seem to remember being rather ANTI-war…

]]> By: Frank Calabrese http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8439 Frank Calabrese Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:48:14 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8439 I've downloaded the original movie version with vocals and have sent it to Robert :-) Hopefully he'l upload it to his webspace so you can all here the song in it's proper context :-) I’ve downloaded the original movie version with vocals and have sent it to Robert :-)

Hopefully he’l upload it to his webspace so you can all here the song in it’s proper context :-)

]]> By: Frank Calabrese http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8433 Frank Calabrese Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:37:44 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8433 or the p[olitically correct version by Stan Freberg - "Elderly Man River" :-) or the p[olitically correct version by Stan Freberg – “Elderly Man River” :-)

]]> By: liam hogan http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-8432 liam hogan Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:33:51 +0000 http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/15/barnett-suicide/#comment-8432 New Liberal Policy: Promise to build an 'Old Man River' New Liberal Policy: Promise to build an ‘Old Man River’

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