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	<title>Comments on: Community service</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8582</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I mentioned, Observa, it&#039;s compulsory in our law degree. Actually, we have to do general community service --- I worked in a soup kitchen --- as well as a stint with Legal Aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned, Observa, it&#8217;s compulsory in our law degree. Actually, we have to do general community service &#8212; I worked in a soup kitchen &#8212; as well as a stint with Legal Aid.</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8578</link>
		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s your feeling on extending it to uni degrees Rob?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your feeling on extending it to uni degrees Rob?</p>
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		<title>By: C.L.</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8569</link>
		<dc:creator>C.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gallop Youth.  Will the wearing of lederhosen be prescribed for those big exercise sessions in the morning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gallop Youth.  Will the wearing of lederhosen be prescribed for those big exercise sessions in the morning?</p>
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		<title>By: liam hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8562</link>
		<dc:creator>liam hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have re-read the post, shamefacedly and found that it&#039;s 20 hours &lt;b&gt;in total&lt;/b&gt;, not 20 hours &lt;b&gt;a week&lt;/b&gt;.
I&#039;m no longer against it but feel real dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have re-read the post, shamefacedly and found that it&#8217;s 20 hours <b>in total</b>, not 20 hours <b>a week</b>.<br />
I&#8217;m no longer against it but feel real dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8551</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the trackback thing is just temporary until I have time to deal with it. I&#039;m moving to 1.5 ASAP, having already mucked around with it pre-release elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the trackback thing is just temporary until I have time to deal with it. I&#8217;m moving to 1.5 ASAP, having already mucked around with it pre-release elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: miss p.</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8550</link>
		<dc:creator>miss p.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, you turned off trackbacks!   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pissnvinegar.com/2005/02/22/citizenship/&quot;&gt;I posted about this.&lt;/a&gt;

(And if you were up to 1.5, whichever spamfilter you use right now would work on trackbacks too.  Just sayin&#039;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, you turned off trackbacks!   <a href="http://www.pissnvinegar.com/2005/02/22/citizenship/">I posted about this.</a></p>
<p>(And if you were up to 1.5, whichever spamfilter you use right now would work on trackbacks too.  Just sayin&#8217;.)</p>
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		<title>By: miss piss</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8549</link>
		<dc:creator>miss piss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon I would have done upwards of a hundred hours that would qualify as community service as far as they&#039;re concerned -- I was a house captain, I read to the littler kids at the primary school up the street, I umpired a couple of things.  I was a bus monitor, for Chrissakes, and that was a half hour trip just about every school day for 30-odd weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon I would have done upwards of a hundred hours that would qualify as community service as far as they&#8217;re concerned &#8212; I was a house captain, I read to the littler kids at the primary school up the street, I umpired a couple of things.  I was a bus monitor, for Chrissakes, and that was a half hour trip just about every school day for 30-odd weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: liam hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8548</link>
		<dc:creator>liam hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn... I&#039;m with Yobbo on this one. This is just another form of conscription, which would have pissed me off if I&#039;d had to do it when I was in school. That it&#039;s probably a good idea doesn&#039;t change the fact that it has nothing to do with education.
Point two: if I was in a nursing home I wouldn&#039;t like the idea of a younger version of me working for my benefit. It&#039;d be enough to make me push my Zimmer frame screaming from the place.
Of course it&#039;d be better than my actaul experience. I spent my 20 hours a week, after I turned 15, being exploited by a multinational chain fast food restaurant, which taught me the values of:
1. Never volunteering for anything
2. Pilfering
3. Not imagining that $5.04 an hour is a fair wage
4. Trade unionism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn&#8230; I&#8217;m with Yobbo on this one. This is just another form of conscription, which would have pissed me off if I&#8217;d had to do it when I was in school. That it&#8217;s probably a good idea doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it has nothing to do with education.<br />
Point two: if I was in a nursing home I wouldn&#8217;t like the idea of a younger version of me working for my benefit. It&#8217;d be enough to make me push my Zimmer frame screaming from the place.<br />
Of course it&#8217;d be better than my actaul experience. I spent my 20 hours a week, after I turned 15, being exploited by a multinational chain fast food restaurant, which taught me the values of:<br />
1. Never volunteering for anything<br />
2. Pilfering<br />
3. Not imagining that $5.04 an hour is a fair wage<br />
4. Trade unionism.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8541</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cadets and sport were  just institutionalised bullying when I was at school. Come to think of it so was most teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cadets and sport were  just institutionalised bullying when I was at school. Come to think of it so was most teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic White</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/02/21/community-service/comment-page-1/#comment-8540</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messing around doing nothing instead of going to class isnt really going to help students in their education is it?

Frank, yeah it could be worse, but I reject it in principle as well as in practicallity.

Robert, you could still foster that attitude without something as excessive as making it compulsory. Like I said, I would support it being strongly encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messing around doing nothing instead of going to class isnt really going to help students in their education is it?</p>
<p>Frank, yeah it could be worse, but I reject it in principle as well as in practicallity.</p>
<p>Robert, you could still foster that attitude without something as excessive as making it compulsory. Like I said, I would support it being strongly encouraged.</p>
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