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	<title>Comments on: Buying burger-flippers</title>
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		<title>By: [Deleted]</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8921</link>
		<dc:creator>[Deleted]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[&lt;em&gt;Removed at commenter&#039;s request. ---RC.&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<em>Removed at commenter's request. ---RC.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: zoot</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8904</link>
		<dc:creator>zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;... a subsidised lunatic artist who pins a lump of dogshit to a barbed-wire crucifix and deems it art of national relevance.&lt;/em&gt;
Sounds interesting. Where can I see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8230; a subsidised lunatic artist who pins a lump of dogshit to a barbed-wire crucifix and deems it art of national relevance.</em><br />
Sounds interesting. Where can I see it?</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8903</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diversity doesn&#039;t mean extremes - one of the wonderful things about Perth is the rich diversity in culture and for that to be reflected in the food/catering industry is ideal and I think homogenizing diverse communities with multinational plastic food is about as far from ideal as is possible.

The endurance and initiative fast food employees must have to stick with it is just incredible - imagine that channelled into small business and communities instead of some mega giant faceless nameless tasteless schamozzle.

Diversity and respect for individuals does better our communities, small business can allow for that where a multinational couldn&#039;t ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diversity doesn&#8217;t mean extremes &#8211; one of the wonderful things about Perth is the rich diversity in culture and for that to be reflected in the food/catering industry is ideal and I think homogenizing diverse communities with multinational plastic food is about as far from ideal as is possible.</p>
<p>The endurance and initiative fast food employees must have to stick with it is just incredible &#8211; imagine that channelled into small business and communities instead of some mega giant faceless nameless tasteless schamozzle.</p>
<p>Diversity and respect for individuals does better our communities, small business can allow for that where a multinational couldn&#8217;t ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jihadpundit</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jihadpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 02:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you&#039;re right. I&#039;d hate any Commonwealth finding at all. Why can&#039;t they just keep their findings to themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right. I&#8217;d hate any Commonwealth finding at all. Why can&#8217;t they just keep their findings to themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8901</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, well, it&#039;s a good thing your blog doesn&#039;t get commonwealth finding then, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, well, it&#8217;s a good thing your blog doesn&#8217;t get commonwealth finding then, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jihadpundit</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jihadpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure that some pimply-faced kid flipping burgers is doing any less for the national good than, say, a subsidised lunatic artist who pins a lump of dogshit to a barbed-wire crucifix and deems it art of national relevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that some pimply-faced kid flipping burgers is doing any less for the national good than, say, a subsidised lunatic artist who pins a lump of dogshit to a barbed-wire crucifix and deems it art of national relevance.</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8898</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ferret features should give more support to small business and offer employment diversity courses for high school and uni students so that they can see there is something more available for them and for them to offer to their communities than plastic crap food that comes from a concrete box with a smoke stack, that pays crap as well.  

Poor kids. [poor adults as well]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ferret features should give more support to small business and offer employment diversity courses for high school and uni students so that they can see there is something more available for them and for them to offer to their communities than plastic crap food that comes from a concrete box with a smoke stack, that pays crap as well.  </p>
<p>Poor kids. [poor adults as well]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I see what you&#039;re saying. I don&#039;t think anyone is sneering at them (which is why John Howard is right --- nobody could seriously disagree and argue that we &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; sneer at them), but I didn&#039;t make that clear enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I see what you&#8217;re saying. I don&#8217;t think anyone is sneering at them (which is why John Howard is right &#8212; nobody could seriously disagree and argue that we <em>should</em> sneer at them), but I didn&#8217;t make that clear enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Granted that you make your opposition to fast-food multinationals&#039; exploitative practises quite clear overall.    By &quot;being a bit soft on [them]&quot; I was referring to your opening sentence:  &quot;John Howard is right to say that we should not &#039;sneer at young Australians who work for Hungry Jacks&#039;&quot;.

Who&#039;s sneering at them, seriously?  It sure as hell ain&#039;t the Left --- which not only champions full employment (a job for everyone who wants one), but would like to see, as indeed you point out, hefty wages rises for them, through the introduction of equal pay for equal work by young employees, instead of the current discriminatory system.

By letting John Howard&#039;s demonstratively false premise into your argument --- however fleetingly --- you commit the common Labor policy error of losing control of the debate.  Therefore, you say you agree with the PM, instead of demolishing his conceit.  Pointedly,    
Jenny Macklin adopts the same tactics --- so omitting to attack corporate welfare at the very time such an offensive is called for.   Labor&#039;s response to the Tampa incident in 2001 is perhaps the best-known, and the most shameful, example of all.

As long as Labor keeps up this gutless game --- of being too scared or too incompetent to challenge outrageous statements made by the government, so always ending up uttering qualified endorsements of government policy --- it will be permanently unelectable federally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Granted that you make your opposition to fast-food multinationals&#8217; exploitative practises quite clear overall.    By &#8220;being a bit soft on [them]&#8221; I was referring to your opening sentence:  &#8220;John Howard is right to say that we should not &#8217;sneer at young Australians who work for Hungry Jacks&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s sneering at them, seriously?  It sure as hell ain&#8217;t the Left &#8212; which not only champions full employment (a job for everyone who wants one), but would like to see, as indeed you point out, hefty wages rises for them, through the introduction of equal pay for equal work by young employees, instead of the current discriminatory system.</p>
<p>By letting John Howard&#8217;s demonstratively false premise into your argument &#8212; however fleetingly &#8212; you commit the common Labor policy error of losing control of the debate.  Therefore, you say you agree with the PM, instead of demolishing his conceit.  Pointedly,<br />
Jenny Macklin adopts the same tactics &#8212; so omitting to attack corporate welfare at the very time such an offensive is called for.   Labor&#8217;s response to the Tampa incident in 2001 is perhaps the best-known, and the most shameful, example of all.</p>
<p>As long as Labor keeps up this gutless game &#8212; of being too scared or too incompetent to challenge outrageous statements made by the government, so always ending up uttering qualified endorsements of government policy &#8212; it will be permanently unelectable federally.</p>
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		<title>By: liam hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/03/09/burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-8889</link>
		<dc:creator>liam hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can beat that---in 1995-96 I was paid $5.07 an hour. For dirty, nasty, heavy lifting work I wouldn&#039;t ask a fucking gym-going weight-lifting obsessive to do.
McDonalds Australia: listen up. Your franchisees are rorting your workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can beat that&#8212;in 1995-96 I was paid $5.07 an hour. For dirty, nasty, heavy lifting work I wouldn&#8217;t ask a fucking gym-going weight-lifting obsessive to do.<br />
McDonalds Australia: listen up. Your franchisees are rorting your workers.</p>
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