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	<title>Comments on: Industrial relations campaign update</title>
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		<title>By: Christo</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10779</link>
		<dc:creator>Christo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you&#039;ve all seen this. This kid deserves a medal. Solid gold:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/booklet-bandit-exposes-waste/2005/11/13/1131816796850.html?oneclick=true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you&#8217;ve all seen this. This kid deserves a medal. Solid gold:<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/booklet-bandit-exposes-waste/2005/11/13/1131816796850.html?oneclick=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/booklet-bandit-exposes-waste/2005/11/13/1131816796850.html?oneclick=true</a></p>
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		<title>By: EXPRESSYOURSELF</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10769</link>
		<dc:creator>EXPRESSYOURSELF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to think that all this IR debate may be a smokescreen for other issues.
What other laws or policies are going to be slipped through at the same time as these so called reforms. 
As IR goes i can see arguments from all sides, 
       Ive worked with people that are just plain lazy scamming pricks, who will do anything they can to sleaze money from their boss for no output.
       Then there is the boss that exploits good hard working people, knowing that they cant afford to leave, or go up north for better money.
       Then there is companys that have sub contractors working for them, and let them keep working for them when they are trading insolvent, and know full well that they cant pay them,  this to me is one of the lowest acts as far as IR goes. 

  But arent we all missing something, how much percent a year does all the sleazy policy makeing politicians pay go up each year.   Maybe they should have some employment reforms- Basically if they dont perform why cant they be sacked and not given any more benifits or salary afterwards.  



   IT all comes down to Morals if you ask me, If you work for someone, work as though you would for youself.  Same as paying someone, some employers i know should ask themselves if they would get out of bed each day for what they are paying some of their workers.


  If you are a decent person you should be treated like one
  If you act like an arsehole, dont fn cry when you get treated like one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to think that all this IR debate may be a smokescreen for other issues.<br />
What other laws or policies are going to be slipped through at the same time as these so called reforms.<br />
As IR goes i can see arguments from all sides,<br />
       Ive worked with people that are just plain lazy scamming pricks, who will do anything they can to sleaze money from their boss for no output.<br />
       Then there is the boss that exploits good hard working people, knowing that they cant afford to leave, or go up north for better money.<br />
       Then there is companys that have sub contractors working for them, and let them keep working for them when they are trading insolvent, and know full well that they cant pay them,  this to me is one of the lowest acts as far as IR goes. </p>
<p>  But arent we all missing something, how much percent a year does all the sleazy policy makeing politicians pay go up each year.   Maybe they should have some employment reforms- Basically if they dont perform why cant they be sacked and not given any more benifits or salary afterwards.  </p>
<p>   IT all comes down to Morals if you ask me, If you work for someone, work as though you would for youself.  Same as paying someone, some employers i know should ask themselves if they would get out of bed each day for what they are paying some of their workers.</p>
<p>  If you are a decent person you should be treated like one<br />
  If you act like an arsehole, dont fn cry when you get treated like one</p>
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		<title>By: dirtbikeoption</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10766</link>
		<dc:creator>dirtbikeoption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observa, in my experience the scumbags and crooks are not the ones with tools in their hands. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observa, in my experience the scumbags and crooks are not the ones with tools in their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 06:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are these guys calling for fair or unfair dismissal of workers ?http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17204895%255E661,00.html
Personally I say it&#039;s about bloody time we employers were given the absolute right to fire scumbags and crooks in the imterests of the majority of our decent workers. Let the birds of a feather flock together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these guys calling for fair or unfair dismissal of workers ?http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17204895%255E661,00.html<br />
Personally I say it&#8217;s about bloody time we employers were given the absolute right to fire scumbags and crooks in the imterests of the majority of our decent workers. Let the birds of a feather flock together.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10760</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;SBS&#039;, I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;SBS&#8217;, I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose good old Barnaby Joyce will be the court of last resort, though last i saw in my local paper he was more worried about &#039;gay&#039; shows screening on SBC.  Yawn to you, Barnaby, get a freaking clue.

It&#039;s all rather depressing, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose good old Barnaby Joyce will be the court of last resort, though last i saw in my local paper he was more worried about &#8216;gay&#8217; shows screening on SBC.  Yawn to you, Barnaby, get a freaking clue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all rather depressing, really.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wall</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10757</link>
		<dc:creator>James Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really appreciate your hard work and dedication in keeping us up-to-date on the latest IR happenings. The whole thing is black sticky farce from start to finish and it&#039;s infuriating to know that the government is selectively deaf to the overwhelming outrage at these &quot;proposed&quot; (in other words, they&#039;re going to happen) changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really appreciate your hard work and dedication in keeping us up-to-date on the latest IR happenings. The whole thing is black sticky farce from start to finish and it&#8217;s infuriating to know that the government is selectively deaf to the overwhelming outrage at these &#8220;proposed&#8221; (in other words, they&#8217;re going to happen) changes.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10756</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work Choices seems to be coming up quite often in referrers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work Choices seems to be coming up quite often in referrers.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Maul</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10754</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth Maul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first paragraph is typically Labor and sounds like their infamous Rollback promise that they apply to all Liberal policy and then a year or so and an opposition leader later, Labor changes stance and moves onto the next hot issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first paragraph is typically Labor and sounds like their infamous Rollback promise that they apply to all Liberal policy and then a year or so and an opposition leader later, Labor changes stance and moves onto the next hot issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.redrag.net/2005/11/09/ir/comment-page-1/#comment-10752</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha, when A Current Affair is bashing your packing, you know you&#039;ve lost the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha, when A Current Affair is bashing your packing, you know you&#8217;ve lost the masses.</p>
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